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Published: 01 Jun 2007 - 12:28 by raystrach

Updated: 05 Jun 2007 - 22:38

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Hi all

You may have noticed some small changes in ads/graphics on the subject of Squashgame GOLD. up until now we have been doing a lot of talking, but not much action.

Things are changing at last!

You can view a handful of our initial technical videos on our sample page. Although they are not opening in  a new window as they should be (as of 1/6/07) this will soon be rectified.  We anticipate a number of versions of the same video to concentrate on different aspects of its content.

You will need a recent version of Flash Player  to play the videos. These samples are of medium to high quality and need at least a 1MB broadband connection to stream without interruption.

I am interested in getting feedback on just about anything to do with the videos, but in particular:
  • The quality of the videos
  • Volume levels
  • Problems, if any, with opening/playing
  • Our production approach - eg more text, less talk??
  • Length of the videos
  • What topics you would like to see.
I would love to hear your feedback on this as it is a culmination of a lot of effort on our part. Also, don't be  afraid to speak your mind on this. We really do want to know what you think.

View sample page here and look for the GOLD iconssquash game squash extras How to add images to Members' Forum posts and replies here... PSA Squash TV - North American Open 2012

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From raystrach - 05 Jun 2007 - 22:38

oh yes,

will will get more light into those videos as well. although there might be some small delay - we've got to sort out this technique thing

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From Viper - 05 Jun 2007 - 16:54

No worries

Mind you I think it might be wise to iron out technique style before you go to the trouble of videoing flawed movement

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From rippa rit - 05 Jun 2007 - 09:52

Sorry Ray I got sucked in - this thread is about the video production and not about approaching the ball, shoulders, etc.

There will be plenty of chances to discuss technique when the videos are up and running and allocated to the appropriate spots in the squash library. 

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From raystrach - 05 Jun 2007 - 09:00

hi all

in answer to your question about cost etc, just click on the ad link between the main post and the replies. we will be advising more specific details very soon.

without wanting to get into the specifics of technique  here in this thread, anyone who is coaching an arced approach to the ball is 20 years behind the times! - move straight to the side of the ball (in an ideal situation). shoulder turn is a debatable topic and one that i am sure will get a decent run at some stage.

if you want to discuss this further, start a new thread in Squash Info.

cheers

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From Viper - 05 Jun 2007 - 08:52

Yes, but the point of the videos is to illustrate as correct technique as possible, in matches we compromise our technique under pressure but in a rehearshed sessions like this I would have thought it was paramount to show as accurate as possible the correct technique.

As Iam also pointed out, running in a straight line to the ball with little shoulder turn is not what is desired is it not ?

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From rippa rit - 05 Jun 2007 - 07:45   -   Updated: 05 Jun 2007 - 07:59

Viper appreciate the feedback. Without feedback we cannot get debate, view points, other appreciations, so up the feedback is good.

Just one word comparing Ramy who is virtually standing static in that pose as opposed to a player going quickly into the back corner with a ball dying.  Just for curiousity, please go to squashsite and look at action shots,one where a top player is under pressure (Ramy if possible) and see how the technical aspects stack up.  The angle of approach is also relative to the footwork, eg chasing a straight shot, a cross court, etc.
Wouldn't it be good if,during comp, our opponent would allow for:
  • balance
  • time to get into position
  • the ball sitting at a reasonable height
  • nothing too close to the wall
  • keep the ball out of the corners
In which case they would not be much of an opponent

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From Viper - 04 Jun 2007 - 15:52   -   Updated: 04 Jun 2007 - 15:58

Thanks Ray.

No worries about the pic link.

Painting the court is good.

Lighting, lighting, lighting, you must up the lighting quality, this will make or break the quality, nothing worse than viewing in this orange half gloom that is so prevalent in online videos.

Also a small thing, but the player we see in in most of the stills, time to drop the canary yellow shorts with an orange shirt  scary stuff even when it was in vogue in the 80's !

 

Gold membership, this is fee based I would guess, yes ? If so how much ?

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From raystrach - 04 Jun 2007 - 15:46   -   Updated: 04 Jun 2007 - 15:49

hi folks

thanks for the feedback so far - keep it coming.

sorry about the pic link viper - have not had a chance to look at it, but i will clean up and discover the problem

on some of the specific suggestions:
  • a future version of the player will be able to "position" the stream
  • this particular court is being painted very soon
  • there will eventually (within 6-12 months) be hundreds of videos and there will be multiple versions of the same video, each one concentrating on a different aspect of the play
  • there will be multiple camera angles of the same skills
  • some aspects of the production will be improved in the short term eg transitions
  • there will also be opportunities for GOLD members to comment on  each aspect of these(with a discussion page for each library page sub section), to argue with us and with each other as well as being a more general GOLD forum
  • if we get some encouragement (in the form of a solid Gold membership base) we will be doing a LOT more over and above what i have just described
oh yes... there will be heaps of squashgame logos once the court is tidied up

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From Viper - 04 Jun 2007 - 12:09

Oh...and I must add, this is a great effort by R&R these videos could be a fantastic learning tool

 

Getting it right from the kick off is so important, I would really urge you to get much more light on the court you are using, at present it is like a yellow twilight in there, bright "white" light is a must.

If I was starting a long process of filming numerous sessions I would also :

Paint the court which will also brighten up the light greatly and add much more contrast and I would also fix a "squashgame info" banner along the tin, the tin is currently a very ugly "baby poo" brown.

 

Good luck with it.

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From Viper - 04 Jun 2007 - 10:47

Yes iamspartacus, exactly what I was trying to post as a picture of Ramy, here is a link to the pic : much greater shoulder turn >

http://www.squashsite.co.uk/2007 new/ramy.h28.jpg

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From nickhitter - 04 Jun 2007 - 10:40   -   Updated: 04 Jun 2007 - 10:42

I have to disagree with the guys backhand techinque in the drop drive video. Although I'm no squash master, I find certain question marks in his technique....

his elbow is too far out from his body? (swing not compact/efficient enough)

not enough shoulder turn? possibly because he runs straight at the ball instead of an arc and then turning in sideways on (see below - therefore he is using his arm rather than his body/legs to generate power)

He doesn't take the racket back early enough. Rather he has the racket in front of him while he is moving to the ball and then quickly takes it back and swings in one movement. He should have the racket already back as he is moving to the ball (as he DOES DO correctly on the forehand video, incidently) so a little more work on his backhand preparation methinks! if you don't do this then it's impossible to return those crosscourts that kind of half hit the sidewall nick then jump out at an unexpected angle (he wouldn't time to play it if his racket wasn't already back)

Also ,regarding footwork, on both the backhand and forehand sides he is moving to the ball in a straight line, instead of an arc. As a result especially on the forehand side he looks a little cramped up and close to the ball on some of the drives.

I know , I know. but you were bound to get some diffierence of opinion weren't you?

Good job with the videos in general though!

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From Viper - 04 Jun 2007 - 10:02

Struggling to get an image into this thread.

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From Viper - 04 Jun 2007 - 10:00   -   Updated: 04 Jun 2007 - 15:49

Click Below for Attached Images

ramy ashour backhand

Backhand >

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From mike - 02 Jun 2007 - 22:14

Hi Ray, looking good so far. Quality is good.

My comments:
  • It's good that the videos are opening in the current window. I can open my own windows/tabs as necessary. Better than having the web sites guess when I want a new one
  • The videos don't allow me to "scrub" or position the play head at a given point. If I want to see something again I have to watch the whole video again.
  • The faster transitions on the drive videos are better. The page curl on back corner retrieval is a bit obtrusive and long.
  • A link to download a quicktime/wmv file would be great for future reference
  • Multiple camera angles of the same shot may be helpful, particularly on the length drives so we can see where the drive ended up (full length, dying length etc.)
Topics I'd like to see
  • Constructing a rally (tactics). To illustrate the benefit of choosing the right shots to position the opponent and build towards a winner.
  • Drop shots
  • Knowing where the opponent is. How to find the opponent at the right time (in order to hit away from them) without loosing track of the ball before playing a shot.
  • Interference Rules demonstrations. Let/Stroke situations and why
  • Volleying to length
  • Returning tight lob serves

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From Viper - 01 Jun 2007 - 14:56   -   Updated: 01 Jun 2007 - 16:48

Click Below for Attached Images

The quality of the videos - Not bad, better lighting needed though for sure.

Volume levels - are good, nice and clear

Problems, if any, with opening/playing - open fine for me.

Our production approach - eg more text, less talk??  - slow mo is good, more explanation of technique is required I reckon though.

Length of the videos - Like to see them longer with more detail on technique.

What topics you would like to see - everything, but especially advanced shot selection and tactics.

 

One point :

Should not the backhand begin with a lot more shoulder turn to the back wall  ?

 

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