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Ruling question about asking for let

Published: 21 Jan 2014 - 09:34 by vuhuuu

Updated: 22 Jun 2015 - 17:55

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Hi,

I have a question about ruling.

I serve from the right box to the left box.

The ball bounces from the front wall to the side wall, which is unconfortable for my opponent to strike back. He lets the ball bounce from his left side to the back wall.He turnes his body also to the left following the ball movement direction. He turnes his body 270degrees and asks for a let because he wasn't sure where I was standing anymore(in some point he was facing his back side to the front wall when he was turning).

So as I understand this is ok. If someone turns 360 degrees then in some point he doesn't know where the opponent is and it is right to ask for let.

But he does it with every serve that is uncomfortable for him to strike back from the left sidewall.So if I server to the left box then he answers only the shots he likes and takes lets(he turnes his body according to ball movement so he "spins") for the serves that are difficult to answer.

Is that ok?

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From raystrach - 24 Feb 2014 - 09:47

hi vuhuu

aprice is right. the relatively recent rule changes mean that if a player turns on a serve with the intention of asking for a let, it is no let.

i have found that the average player is not aware of this and finds it hard to interpret. our local club decided that it would go one step further, and enacted a local rule preventing any turning on the return of serve.

this has made things much clearer and now some players who were previously turning have now stopped, as the referees do not have to use their (sometimes poor) judgement.

why anyone would want to turn on a serve like this is beyond me, because such a serve is actually a poor one, as the server is forced to remain on one side of the court, opening it up for the returner

rs

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From rippa rit - 06 Feb 2014 - 13:01

Those answers are all sound.  As the server, what happens during play is set by how and where you place your serve so I would be exploring more serving alternatives to give a better outcome.

Here is the WSF Rules of Squash for some light reading.

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From aprice1985 - 03 Feb 2014 - 07:13

So my interpretation of this (wrong or right)

Your opponent is turning off a serve, personally i dislike this as i feel it is generally unforced and entirely choice which is not really allowed so the first decision to be made is, is this unforced turning

Turning

Turning is the action of the player who strikes, or is in a position to strike, the ball
to the right of the body after the ball has passed behind it to the left or vice versa,
whether the player physically turns or not.

If the striker encounters interference while turning, and could have made a good return

 then:
8.13.1
if the swing was prevented, even though the opponent was making every
effort to avoid the interference, a stroke is awarded to the striker;
8.13.2
if the non-striker had no time to avoid the interference, a let is allowed;
8.13.3
if the striker could have struck the ball without turning, but turned in order to create an opportunity to request a let, no let is allowed.
8.13.4
When the striker turns, the Referee must always consider whether the action was dangerous and rule accordingly.
 
To me in the context of return of serve the player can in essence always play the ball without turning so it is no let, and if they hit the non striker after turning then it is a stroke to the non striker and a warning for dangerous play.  This however is poorly recognised by many players.  If he can't hit the return without turning he should alter where he stands to receive.

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From hamburglar - 02 Feb 2014 - 11:11

That's a bad serve that gets you off the T. I'd stop serving that way. If you're a righty and using a forehand serve, try a backhand serve. It will give the ball a much straighter angle into the back corner and will not bounce around the the middle like a forehand will.

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